Vin's Forecast For Hip Hop In 2009

January 01 2009 16:55 PST

By: Vin Funaro

Looking forward and never looking back needs to be the motto for Hip Hop in 2009. This going back to the 'old school' attitude needs to go away. That's not to say old rappers shouldn't put out new music, but we need to start supporting the new talent.  We are certainly due for a slew of fresh faces ripping up the mic in the new year. Here's a list of my most anticipated things in Hip Hop for 2009.

The New School- Rapper's like Charles Hamilton, Asher Roth, Wale and Kid Cudi made the headlines in 2008 as the future of Hip Hop. Kid Cudi released his 'Day and Night' song which seems to be creating a strong buzz for him. I think he'll make an interesting album in 2009.  Kid Cudi seems to have the whole rapper/singer thing down and Kanye West cosigned on his talent. As for the rest of those guy's listed above, they need to make original songs to become relevant and give the mixtapes a break.  Asher Roth sounds way too much like Eminem and coincidentally has the same skin color. He needs to find his own image and sound. As for Charles Hamilton and Wale, their mixtape material is strong but we are still waiting to see if they can deliver original music. Let's see if they can kill it for 2009.

'Blueprint 3'- Jay-Z's 3rd installment of his classic 'Blueprint' series, even though number 2 was not one of his best albums is decently hyped based on its name, but Jay-Z has yet to release any kind of song hot enough to get us excited.  I can't really call this one. Talk about needing reinvention! Kanye West is supposedly producing most of the album so at least the production will be hot if Jay-Z can't deliver lyrically.

Lil Wayne- Is he making 'Tha Carter IV'? Is he re-releasing 'Tha Carter III'?  Plans for Lil Wayne seem to be up in the air for the future. One thing's for sure though, he's always working hard putting out so much music so we can expect to see him do something exciting in 2009. Whether it will be hot I can't really predict.

M.I.A.-Crossover sensation M.I.A. had a huge impact in the U.S. and in Hip Hop in 2008. Although she's so much more than just a rapper, song writer and vocalist, Hip Hop just can't seem to get enough of her. She's currently working on an album set to be released from Interscope Records. 'Paper Planes' ended up being a huge hit in the U.S. and her collaboration with Jay-Z on 'Boyz' also got fans more excited for things to come. You can be sure M.I.A. will be talked about and pursued for more guest appearances in 2009. And hopefully we'll get an album from her too!

The 3 Headed Monster- 'Detox' from Dr. Dre, 'Relapse' from Eminem and 'Before I Self Destruct' from 50 Cent is Interscope Record's "3 Headed Monster" album release in 2009. It's been almost 10 years since we've had an album from Dr. Dre, four years since Eminem has had one and five years since 50 Cent put out anything the caliber of his debut album 'Get Rich Or Die Trying'. If all goes as planned for 'The 3 Headed Monster', it will not only revive the three rappers careers, but Hip Hop's mainstream appeal as well. Nobody does it better than Dr. Dre and no one can out rap Eminem. And even though 50 Cent seems to be the weakest link, albums from Eminem and Dr. Dre may wake him up and push him to put out some hot material. We'll have to see if it happens. Just like monsters this triple release may end up being a myth.

So that's my most anticipated things in Hip Hop for 2009. For the long term we really need the New School to pick up the torch and run with it. For the short term I would love to hear new and good albums from Eminem, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne and Jay-Z. And who can forget about M.I.A.? So will my list live up to the hype? Tell me what you think Desi Hits! readers.

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February 04, 2009 02:07 PST

Well, Da1 you are about a month late on this for one thing, for another, if you look below no one else agrees with you. Lil Wayne's weak ass is sinking to the bottom as we speak and if anything, Carters 1 and 2 were the closest thing to decent he's had. MIA may be the hottest Sri Lankan, sure, but how many Sri Lankan rappers are there? LMAO! Not the typical pop garbage? Sure, no Britney Spears, N'Sync, etc., but that is because that was pop 10 years ago! Typical pop today ranges from your poster boys like Soulja Boy (whose ship sank long ago) to Lil Wayne whose formula typifies modern pop rap. "A Milli" was a pop song in the late 2000's if I ever heard one and don't even get me started on "Lollipop." And once again, I'm not even touching that "Paper Planes" BS from MIA. Back to Wayne. The only good song off C3 (and I'll admit, it was dope) was "Tie My Hands." And it is obvious to me you have no clue who any of those fucking artists on my list were or you simply didn't read it, because every artist on my list was so far from pop it makes Illmatic sound like pop music (you probably have never heard of Illmatic. It's OK, I wouldn't expect it out of someone who jumped on the "hip hop" bandwagon last year). So next time you even try to step to my list, learn something about hip hop first, then come and make judgments. Thanks.

February 01, 2009 10:06 PST

Man, Eboyd got his angry mode on for a hot a** minute... chill, dog... ur analysis is wack... 50 Cent, I agree is the gayest rapper alive. But, Lil Wayne has come up since his debut album which in my opinion was the worst of all time. Also, get the facts straight, his new album is called 'The Rebirth'. Wayne is a rapper who is being creative and trying to get fans to listen to music thats not the typical club banger like Master P's infamous 'Ugh'. Now, man, what really gets me is your opuinion on MIA, what Sri Lankan girl you know that can flow harder on the mic than MIA... when you find that person, find me on facebook, and I will like to meet her because I am a dj/producer working for a record company that is not putting any new material out right now. Have you seen Slumdog Millionaire? Have you heard the track, O Saya, that is the best song I have heard in a long time, again it is not the typical pop song that Britney Spears or Nsync might sing, maybe thats what your into Eboyd, not hip hop, because, you seem like a whitewashed hip hop listener to me...

January 03, 2009 03:51 PST

np. thx for spending the time to read it.

January 03, 2009 03:48 PST

eboyd, just read ur whole analysis -- i must say i couldn't agree more, especially about 50 and wayne. thanks for spittin truth man.

January 02, 2009 23:12 PST

yeah Kunal, i agree 100%

January 02, 2009 16:10 PST

Expect some heat from Wale, BOB and Cudi. I think Eminem will ether Asher as soon as his album drops. People won't be able to visually and aurally differentiate Asher from Em. People will call him a biter.

January 02, 2009 02:46 PST

the point was to simply negate the article itself. i figured the author would read it. but OK, then let me summarize: -50 Cent is a parasite. -Lil Wayne gets more hate than love in reality. -Wale and Kid Cudi are the only strong points on the original article. -i'm not sure about Asher Roth yet. i have mixed feelings. -if this is about not focusing on "going back to the old school" then why is Dre's new album so highly anticipated by him? -Eminem and Jay-Z are close to the kids of today's definition of "old school" too. -"old school" (true term for these artists = golden age) artists such as KRS-One, Kool G Rap, etc., have released less than stellar albums recently. -upcoming, highly anticipated albums from "old school" artists don't seem promising. -because of focus on such artists this year, great albums such as Elzhi's "The Preface" and Invincible's "Shapeshifters" have gone unnoticed. -the same happened last year with artists such as Blu & Exile and Y-Society. -now here are the artists who i am expecting to deliver in 2009: -Jay Electronica -Blu -Damu The Fudgemunk -Insight -Mr. Lif -Dagha -Edo G -Immortal Technique is that a little easier to read for you? hopefully that helps.

January 02, 2009 01:53 PST

wow.. eboyd's comment is the longest shit ive ever seen, i wonder if he realizes that no one reads things that are longer than the article.. anyways, Dre Shud be hype...

January 01, 2009 19:56 PST

I came to this site because I got a google alert about this article and while I somewhat agree with the focus on your article, I think if your forecast actually occurs we will see the final nail driven into hip hop's coffin. You see, 50 Cent, no matter what Eminem and Dr. Dre do, is a parasite. He feeds off the talent of other rappers and brings them down to his level by creating these unnecessary beefs that have proven off-putting for years. His ridiculous beefs with Nas and the Wu Tang Clan, for example, not only lead to him looking like a complete idiot and getting lyrically embarassed, it lead to unnecessary attention being paid on a beef that should have never existed and countless amounts of precious money, time and music to be wasted by all parties. Next up is Lil Wayne. While his last album sold a million dollars (and naturally some proof shows that his record label may have personally purchase a large amount of copies just to make it seem like he sold more than he did), this siphilitic creature has a more lukewarm following at the moment than you think. A much larger amount of people would rather see Lil Wayne fall off the face of the earth than would like to see him succeed in making a Carter IV. While he has shown he can be somewhat talented on tracks like "Georgia Bush," "Hustla Musik," and "Tie My Hands," tracks like "Lollipop" and "A Millie" are almost cringe-worthy and are off-putting for most people who have to endure his music exploding from speakers in a Range Rover a quarter mile away. I am not even going to get into M.I.A. We'll just leave it at that with her. Now, in the midst of all this negativity, there are some strong points in your list that have to be taken into account. New talents such as Wale and Kid Cudi are somewhat strong prospects for the future and I have mixed feelings about Asher Roth. He's one I will have to just wait and see to call. But the praise ends there. Now, when you say "forget back to the old school" I am a bit confused. You see, I was under the impression this meant stop focusing on old artists who are dropping new albums because we will be disappointed. To this I would have agreed fully, but in your list, Dr. Dre's album is very highly anticipated. If anyone is "old school" it is Dre. He's been around since 1982 with the World Class Wreckin' Cru and though he has reinvented his sound at least 3 or 4 times to stay relevant, he's still the same Dre and his new album is an extension to his classic Chronic series. What's more is you have 2 more well seasoned artists on your list in Jay-Z and Eminem. Though both wouldn't quite qualify for "old school" as that era ended in 1986 (maybe you should check your facts), they would definitely qualify for the uneducated listener's definition for the term. I mean Soulja Boy even said that 50 Cent is old school to him. Now I agree that looking to old school artists for dope new albums is ignorant, though if and when they do it is a treat. Kool G Rap, KRS-One, the Wu Tang Clan, GZA and RZA (the lead Wu members), etc. have all recently release albums, all which have ranged between being OK albums to extraordinary door stoppers. We have also been awaiting a new album called the Seventh Seal by Rakim and a project by Raekwon called Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2. While Rakim has unreleased music from his stay at Aftermath records that can only be described as some of his best to date, along with odd jobs such as the DJ Premier produced remix of the Nike promotional track "Classic," whose name perfectly describe every part of that track except for Kanye's mediocre verse, other material including the music he is promoting on his MySpace page for the new album flat out suck. OB4CL2, on the same token, has a huge hype, and it may deliver. Rae is still hot, but should this, or any other seasoned artist for that matter, have their album hyped like this? Last year, with solid releases from Nas, Q-Tip, Common and The Roots, new artists who made underrated masterpieces like Elzhi's "The Preface" and Invincible's "Shapeshifters" got overlooked. In 2007 a similar occurence could be noted. With so much focus being place on Common's "Finding Forever" at the time, underground classics such as Blu & Exile's "Below The Heavens" and Y-Society's "Travel At Your Own Pace" became diamonds in the rough. Neither album lead to any success commercially even though both were solid through and through. I'd go as far as to call "Below The Heavens" one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. Now, to stop with my roundabout venture in showing you how your list should really look, I will give you my point of view on this year finally. Jay Electronica - the little know producer from Nas' album "Untitled" is also a rapper and has plans to release his first full length album in 2009. His style is very unique, which you will quickly notice upon listening to the drumless, bassless masterpiece that is "Queens Get The Money." And unlike most experimental artists, Jay is from Louisiana, the home of dull, formulaic hip hop (on the exception of Lil Wayne who just whines on a track and makes music that is utter drivel). If he drops in 2009, Jay is sure to make quite a splash. And before I forget, expect him on any future projects by his girlfriend Erykah Badu. Blu - one half of duos Blu & Exile, Jonson & Johnson (Blu & Mainframe) and Crac Knuckles (Blu & Ta'raach), Blu has revealed plans for both a solo project and a follow up to his 2007 masterpiece with Exile, "Below The Heavens." Damu The Fudgemunk - a new producer and disciple of such legends as DJ Premier, Pete Rock and Diamond D, Damu is one of the few young artists keeping turntables and MPC's alive. He has graced us with 2 free downloadable instrumental albums and has discussed plans for a follow up to his group Y-Society's 2007 success "Travel At Your Own Pace" with partner Insight from Boston. The Big Hitters From Boston - artists such as the aforementioned Insight, Dagha (who graced us with an under-the-radar album called "The Divorce" last year), Mr. Lif, and the legendary Edo G are all well overdue for some attention. Maybe we can get at least one release from the city in Massachusetts and actually pay it it's due respects this time around. Immortal Technique - we are still awaiting the highly anticipated "Middle Passage" from this man who is a reincarnation of Che Guevara. After a lukewarm and somewhat disappointing mixape album from him last year called the 3rd World, that saw Tech pretty much sounding like an angered teenager, hopefully "The Middle Passage" will see the return of one of the world's favorite underground hip hop acts. Oh, and Viva La Revolucion!

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